[dariosalvi78]

I've owned 4 of their laptops in the past 5 years (not my choice) and all of them ended in the trash for different reasons that did not depend on me. Maybe the phones are better, I have never owned one. Ok most companies make some bad products and most companies have some top notch products. Is Apple any different?

[reidjs]

How?? I'm on a macbook air from 2011 and an iphone SE from 2012. Do you just pour soda all over them? Or has their laptop quality dipped in the last four years? I know that the butterfly keyboards were having all kinds of issues, but I wouldn't trash a computer over that, they would probably replace the keyboard.

[dariosalvi78]

One failed motherboard or smth like that, one because of display issues + keyboard, 2 because of keyboard become unusable. All MacBook Pros. A couple could not be serviced (>2 years old), one could not be fixed, one I changed job (to be fair, I don't know what happened with that one, they may have fixed it). In comparison, the cheapest laptop I have ever owned (EEEPC) lasted more than 10 years.