[idoby]

I agree, but that's still a form of estimation though, you're just estimating that you'd be able to deliver on your list of features in the time you have. You could be wrong, and then end up with less features, or be forced to spend more time.

[waynesonfire]

i don't think the claim was that we're no longer estimating. the author was attempting to articulate the process of estimation, where initially one promises the world in N amount of time. As N draws near you reduce feature / scope as needed.. and perhaps when the deadline hits and all you got is a int main(void) { printf("hello world"); return 0; } you figure out what you can make due with where you're at. i like this approach and it resonates with a lot of other great comments in this post.