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by klipt 2202 days ago
If we're going to have free movement it should probably be via a proper agreement, like in the EU. Not a mishmash of contradictory state and federal policies. And it should be mutual - if Mexicans and Canadians can live in the US, Americans should be freely allowed to live in Mexico and Canada.
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jolmg 2202 days ago
> Americans should be freely allowed to live in Mexico

I think they effectively already are.

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tathougies 2202 days ago
We should also have standards like the European Union. And one of those standards should be that any country participating should not be run by warlords.
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rayiner 2202 days ago
This shouldn’t get downvoted. Freedom of movement in the EU is based on consent. Movement is allowed from countries that have been accepted into the EU after an extended process that ensures that the country’s governance and laws are compatible with those of the existing members. Freedom of movement in the EU bears no resemblance to the non-consensual movement of people that happens in North America.
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sdenton4 2202 days ago
At risk of godwinning, by this logic the US should never have taken in all those Jewish scientists fleeing Nazi Germany... Or any of the many, many incredible Iranians I've known and worked with in my life. Often the best people are fleeing intolerable conditions.

btw, the Open Borders graphic novel is fantastic: https://www.smbc-comics.com/openborders/

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tathougies 2202 days ago
Oh no, we can take mexicans in of course, we just should't have open borders. I would hope that, when the US took in Jewish scientists, there was a mechanism in place to make sure they didn't take nazis disguised as jewish scientists.
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xyzzyz 2202 days ago
We took Nazi scientists too, and they didn’t have to disguise themselves. They built our rockets and put us in space.
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catalogia 2202 days ago
One could surmise that provisions for refugees would be an exception case augmenting a more general border policy. As is the case in the EU, I believe?
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AlexandrB 2202 days ago
The inconvenient truth is that many illegal immigrants from South America are refugees from various US-backed coups, dictatorships, and war-on-drugs fuelled drug cartels. Unfortunately they can't always claim refugee status on these grounds.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_f...

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