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by 8note 2203 days ago
Paraphrasing, Cleanse removes all black creatures, including foul beats etc

This seems to point at a bigger issue where the black creatures are considered foul?

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Black creatures are "death" creatures, and are things like "Demonic Tutor", "Dark Ritual", "Rune-Scarred Demon"...

Demons and vampires and zombies and things like that.

The use of "Black" as a stand-in for nefarious things is its own problem, but it does not refer the the color of skin in any way in MTG.

White is the color of death in (tribal) Africa, because people are afro-Africans and skeletons are caucasian-colored.
I think this is more of black = Night and night=scary.

But it could be seen as tone deaf right now.

as another commenter responded, that is not as universal as you would thing! :)
I don’t play Magic, my co-workers do. But seems a little pedantic? I suppose they’re trying to be more inclusive, maybe focus on outreach and getting the game out to other communities.
I am willing to bet they just did not want to hear about these cards anymore, and this is as far as they can go since they do not have a magic lamp to wish them all a way.

The cards mentioned above are NOT good in play, they are only notable for their content.

Personally, I think the art for Imprison is gorgeous, but depicting violence against people of color is dehumanizing and problematic, so I understand and support the decision.

>This seems to point at a bigger issue where the black creatures are considered foul?

Likely in part due to J.R.R. Tolkien's influence on Western fantasy archetypes. Almost invariably, his books equate light skin with purity, civilization and goodness, and dark skin with corruption, barbarism and evil. Not to say that he was racist in the same way as H.P. Lovecraft was when writing about fish-men from Innsmouth as a thinly veiled metaphor for race-mixing, but rather that given Tolkien's Colonial British upbringing, he may have been blind to his own cultural prejudice.

Over the decades this has sort of become a trope that has seeped into a lot of fantasy and even science fiction.

I think you hit the nail here. Racism is broad term, and there is the direct individual Lovecraft style racism, and there is the other which is not as overt but has merit. An example is that idea that black is often time given connotations of brutish, evil, selfish, ...

While white is described as representing "morality, order, community, civilization, ..."

Are they the same, of course not, but we also can't say it has no significance either, as it does to always have those associations.

I dunno, maybe because many things turn black when they rot? Doctors and scientists dress in white or very light colors simply because it makes stains very visible, and it makes it easy to keep clean. I even asked a gay man why do they like white panties and socks so much and he said just that - it's a visible testament of hygiene.
In this case black refers to the card type, and the black type is associated with necromancy and the demonic. I assume that is what foul is referring to?