[tombrossman]

My "404-pests" fail2ban-client status, which drops everything making *.php requests (This machine has never had PHP installed...):

2a03:2880:10ff:14::face:b00c 2a03:2880:10ff:21::face:b00c 2a03:2880:11ff:1a::face:b00c 2a03:2880:11ff:1f::face:b00c 2a03:2880:11ff:2::face:b00c 2a03:2880:12ff:10::face:b00c 2a03:2880:12ff:1::face:b00c 2a03:2880:12ff:9::face:b00c 2a03:2880:12ff:d::face:b00c 2a03:2880:13ff:3::face:b00c 2a03:2880:13ff:4::face:b00c 2a03:2880:20ff:12::face:b00c 2a03:2880:20ff:1e::face:b00c 2a03:2880:20ff:4::face:b00c 2a03:2880:20ff:5::face:b00c 2a03:2880:20ff:75::face:b00c 2a03:2880:20ff:77::face:b00c 2a03:2880:20ff:e::face:b00c 2a03:2880:21ff:30::face:b00c 2a03:2880:22ff:11::face:b00c 2a03:2880:22ff:12::face:b00c 2a03:2880:22ff:14::face:b00c 2a03:2880:23ff:5::face:b00c 2a03:2880:23ff:b::face:b00c 2a03:2880:23ff:c::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:10::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:11::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:17::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:1::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:71::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:a::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:b::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:c::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:d::face:b00c 2a03:2880:30ff:f::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:10::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:11::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:12::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:13::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:17::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:1::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:2::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:3::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:4::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:5::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:6::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:71::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:7::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:8::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:c::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:d::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:e::face:b00c 2a03:2880:31ff:f::face:b00c 2a03:2880:32ff:4::face:b00c 2a03:2880:32ff:5::face:b00c 2a03:2880:32ff:70::face:b00c 2a03:2880:32ff:d::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:16::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:17::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:1a::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:1c::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:1d::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:25::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:b::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:c::face:b00c 2a03:2880:ff:d::face:b00c

[napolux]

I think we're together in this, my friend

[golem14]

I believe, but have not tried, that you can craft zipped files that are small but when expanding produce multi-gigabyte files. If you can sufficiently target the bad guys, you can probably grind them to a halt by serving only them these files. Some care needs to be taken so you don’t harm the innocent and don’t run afoul of any laws that may apply. Good luck.

[djxfade]

Do you think it would be possible to create something similar for gzip? If you then serve with Content-Type: text/html, and Content-Encoding: gzip, the client would accept the payload. And when it tries to expand it, it would get expanded to a large file, eating up their resources.

[golem14]

That was the idea. There's a name for it - zip bomb. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_bomb

A superficial search leads to things like https://www.rapid7.com/db/modules/auxiliary/dos/http/gzip_bo...

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1459673

You really want to be careful about potentially breaking laws ...

[golem14]

Here is another article: https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-16/materials/us-16-Marie-I-...

If FB supports brotli, a much bigger compression factor than 1000 is possible, apparently.

[Thorrez]

Here's a brotli file I created that's 81MB compressed and 100TB uncomrpessed[1] (bomb.br). That's a 1.2M:1 compression ratio (higher than any other brotli ratio I see mentioned online).

There's also a script in that directory that allows you to create files of whatever size you want (hovering around that same compression ratio). You can even use it to embed secret messages in the brotli (compressed or uncompressed). There's also a python script there that will serve it with the right header. Note that for Firefox it needs to be hosted on https, because Firefox only supports brotli over https.

Back when I created it, it would crash the entire browser of ESR Firefox, crash the tab of Chrome, and would lead to a perpetually loading page in regular Firefox.

It's currently hosted at [CAREFUL] https://stuffed.web.ctfcompetition.com [CAREFUL]

[1] https://github.com/google/google-ctf/tree/master/2019/finals...

[notriddle]

A single layer of deflate compression has a theoretical expansion limit of 1032:1. ZIP bombs with higher ratios only achieve it by nesting a ZIP file inside of another ZIP file and expecting the decompressor to be recursive.

This means you can serve 1M payload and have it come out to 1G at decompression time. Not a bad compression ratio, but it doesn't seem like enough to break Facebook servers without taking on considerable load of your own.

http://www.zlib.net/zlib_tech.html

[njvsifhgnvion]

Just a guessing, but maybe a really large file with a limited character set, maybe even just repeating 1 character should compress really well

[njvsifhgnvion]

1 character repeated 1877302224 times has a compression ratio of 99.9% ~1.9GB compresses to ~1.8MB.

[x0]

I believe zip bombs are pretty easily mitigated, with memory limits, cpu time ulimits, etc.

But zip bombs aren't limited to zip files... lots of files have some compression in them You can make malicious PNG's that do the same thing. Probably tonnes of other files.

[golem14]

Good points. According to OP, the goal would be to persuade FB to back off crawling at 300 qps, not to bring down the FB crawl. Having each request expand to 1GB is probably already enough to do that, since a crawler implementing the mitigations you mentioned will likely reduce the crawl rate. Should be easily testable.