[dev1n]

Raz isn't a reason why the police exist. Raz is a product of a system where the police exist too much, which if given the proper social and educational services earlier in his life, his character and personality disorder exemplified here would have been nullified.

[ciarannolan]

At what point are adults responsible for their own actions?

This guy and his crew beat up and threatened to kill someone for a petty crime. What does that have to do with the police existing "too much"?

[thephyber]

> This guy and his crew beat up and threatened to kill someone for a petty crime.

That's exactly what caused all of these protests.

> At what point are adults responsible for their own actions?

It's constantly of interest to me how much "free will" actually exists. The more research comes out about environmental factors, the more we realize that people who suffer {home, food, employment, physical} insecurity exhibit symptoms as if they had a lower IQ and stress which is correlated with increased mental illness, stress, blood pressure, and other health problems.

It also strikes me that the current legal corrections system really only works if we, as individuals, have significant ability to decide not to commit a crime as opposed to it being the most likely destiny based on our current {personal, environmental} state.

[rayiner]

I assure you that's utterly false. There's tons of "Razes" in the country where I'm from, and very few police officers.

[bathtub365]

That idealism is great, but Raz exists today regardless. What’s your solution to that?

[kemonocode]

That doesn't sound like a good excuse for him. Sociopathic behaviors have existed since time immemorial, and the old approach before any form of formal law enforcement even existed was for tribes to enact social law enforcement and isolate or exile such undesirable elements-- and tyrants are born when you got enough armed people on your side to override societal rule.

EDIT: Replaced a term for a more neutral one.

[refurb]

You seem pretty sure of that.

How do explain all the people that have those things Raz didn’t and are still assholes?