[galoisgirl]

> i'm talking about netscape and jamie zawinski, xerox and alan kay, l0pht and mudge, valve and gabe newell. legends.

And you're surprised that not everybody is a legend?

You made up you opinion based on a very small and very unrepresentative sample.

> entering the industry in the early to mid 2010's i found a landscape filled with self serving product managers, conmen (i think they call them executives and MBAs), and a populous of engineers that cared nothing for the tech or the work, and didn't need to as there were no real challenges to tackle.

My experience is different, much better. However, we're not playing with Legos, we have to make money.

Different companies make money in different ways. Some do it by tackling exceptionally difficult problems. Some do it by providing value. Some lie that they're providing value, or provide it to some people at the cost of others.

Always look at the company's business model. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.