[est31]

Have you seen how an industrial farm looks from the inside? I'm a meat eater and I love the taste and stuff, but you need to admit that many animals didn't have a great life at all. So beyond meat solves a real problem. Some folks want all meat production to be banned, I disagree. There are forms of farming which are better for animals, make their lives worth living. They are just more expensive regarding resources as well as money, so can't scale as well as industrial meat production. In the ideal world we've done away with industrial meat production but still keep a limited number of animals for meat production, real meat still being available but most people don't buy it for everyday consumption because it's expensive.

[dilap]

Totally agree; animals should be raised in humane conditions. Ideal would be something like

https://www.instagram.com/slowdownfarmstead/

or

https://stemplecreek.com

Driving down I5 seeing the Harris Ranch finishing lot is pretty awful. The ways chickens are housed here in Chinatown is also awful...

I think in my ideal world we have a balance between humans and animals so that such intensive techniques are not necessary.