[dvtrn]

Hey HN: I’d like to read a compelling counter to the above versus seeing it turn grey without any meaningful discussion via drive by downvoting.

That said, mc32, with regards to food and consumption as you’ve put it, and in this specific context-I wonder if “post-consumerism” is a turn of phrase that you would consider apt? Rather than being against the machinations of excess known to be associated with industrial meat production, it seems to be moved beyond, and dispassionate towards “fixing” these machinations in favor of entirely different ethical choices.

Curious to hear your thoughts.

[mc32]

Post-consumer(ist) would reframe it such that we evaluate it as something existing after transcending consumerism. We may get there, some day.

I’m against calling something that’s basic to human sustenance “consumerist”. We might disagree with peoples choices of food or the source of those foods or whether it’s a small farmer or BigAg.

I remain opposed to calling basic foods (contrasted with luxury foods) part of consumerism. Meats and such have been part of human nutrition for quite some time. Unlike clothing (and other things) you don’t typically buy unnecessary excess for the sake of it or to fulfill some non essential need that’s already been met.

As I admit we can reproach people for unwise choices in food but I can’t consider it consumerism (I would allow some narrow exceptions).

[mping]

I admit the tone is heavy, which makes introspection (reflecting about self consumerist tendencies) unpleasant. But as I understand it, consumerism is a spectrum, just like veganism.