[dehrmann]

I doubt that cost is the concern. Both Apple and Intel are big players, they can find a fair price between them, and Apple always had the threat of switching to ARM to get better prices.

I'm pretty sure this move is for power consumption and maybe so all Apple products are on the same architecture.

[ksec]

A13X cost $30, compared to cheapest Intel used in MacBook Air cost $200+. I think it is quite a difference. That means consumer are paying $300+ for x86 compatibility.

[ogre_codes]

> A13X cost $30, compared to cheapest Intel used in MacBook Air cost $200+.

You aren't comparing costs fairly here. A13X costs $30 each + $XXX million to develop. With Intel the development costs are part of the SKU. If Apple launches a series of desktop CPUs, the cost to develop those chips is going to be substantial. Some of that cost will be in common with the iPad/ iPhone, but a good chunk will be unique to their new CPUs. Since Apple ships far fewer Macs than iPhones, the development cost/ unit will be significantly higher.

[philwelch]

iPad Pro is already beating some MacBooks in CPU benchmarks. Apple might just reuse the same CPU’s.

[ogre_codes]

> iPad Pro is already beating some MacBooks in CPU benchmarks. Apple might just reuse the same CPU’s.

Maybe some. Just considering the size of the devices, I'd expect the 16" MacBook Pro would have beefier CPU options than the iPad Pro.

[philwelch]

Sure, but I don't think the design cost is going to be that high--maybe even less than the design cost of having separate iPad and iPhone CPU's.

[ogre_codes]

Maybe. But they will likely have at least 3-4 different CPUs for the various Macs and different clock speeds for those different designs (though clock speeds and core count will likely be handled primarily through binning). Development cost for each additional CPU will be spread over fewer and fewer units.

- MacBook Air

- High performance MacBook

- iMac / Mac Mini

- iMac Pro/ Mac Pro

If next gen Macs are going to support some kind of x86 emulation/ compatibility layer, performance isn't going to have to be comparable with Intel, it's going to have to be 2-3 times faster so I'm expecting something quite a bit beefier than what the iPad Pro ships with.

[Exmoor]

Source on that pricing?