[tw000001]

I don't think these drugs should be scheduled but here's a perspective that you're less likely to find online: I would never put myself in a position to be indoctrinated by the modern ideologically slanted American psychological establishment while my guard is down, so to speak.

These kinds of drugs also make people extremely open to suggestion. It's one reason why they are used in, say, cults. We are raised to believe in the authority of institutions and the conditioning is so powerful that when most people read any media that seems authoritative (news, books, Wikipedia, etc) unless they are specifically suspicious of the source, there is rarely an innate drive to question the content. This is especially true of how people treat advice from doctors. Now combine that with alkaloids which directly inhibit neural circuits related to suspicion and defense.

You may agree with the tenets of modern western society now, but it's clear that they have a checkered history (e.g. lobotomy, forced sterilization) and no doubt we will look back on some of today's practices with the same horror (sterilization and genital mutilation for gender dysphoria, for example)...

Point being, anyone undergoing such a treatment should be aware that they are effectively handing over their psyche to another human being who is inevitably influenced in some way by the zeitgeist, and it's hubris to presume that current ideas are correct simply because they are different from ideas past. This is also a potential avenue for mass government indoctrination under the guise of medical treatment. Imagine modern "humane" psychedelic reeducation camps orchestrated by your friendly authoritarian uncle sam!

[carapace]

Americans take so many prescription drugs that they can be measured in our sewage. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-jan-30-me-drugs...

[tw000001]

Yes, and most of them know next to nothing about the drugs they take beyond what their doctors have told them. I've watched this blind faith harm people dear to me on multiple occasions.

These are the same institutions that failed across the board in preparing for COVID. Their recommendations should be scrutinized.

[qntty]

You're definitely in a vulnerable and potentially suggestible state when you're on psychedelics, but we all spend the first 12+ years of our lives in a pretty vulnerable and suggestible state, way more so than psychedelics can create. At least you have a little more control over the conditions of your psychedelic time.

[tw000001]

The first 12 years of your life are spent in the care of (ideally) parents who love you unconditionally and genuinely want you to succeed.

Under psychedelic therapy, you are at the mercy of your therapist. I'm not necessarily saying that these are bad people but a dangerous property of a soft science like psychology is that, in defining what falls within the range of normal the psychological establishment is effectively acting as an arbiter of culture. The particular personality changes that they may collectively recommend won't be necessarily be compatible with one's home culture.

Particularly when you consider that the establishment leans heavily left, meanwhile their views regarding aggression, emotional expression, gender roles, etc are fundamentally in conflict with many core tenants on the right. Learning to be less aggressive or more emotional can put you at a social disadvantage in other societies. Laypeople treat psychology as though its conclusions are as rigorous as physics but that's pure hubris - as evidenced by the thousands of successful cultures around the world with totally different approaches to many of the same issues.

[qntty]

Hmm I guess this a there's a lot to say about this. I'll just say two things. One, that most people (including maybe you) are more messed up than they think from childhood. Secondly, (and this is an even bigger issue) there's really no reason to worry about left-wing ideology putting you at a disadvantage socially. The left wouldn't be adopting these more "progressive" identities if they weren't socially advantageous within the social circles of the most powerful people in our society. It's true that being "soft" can be a disadvantage in a small rural area, but this will never be the case again among the American elite. You have to justify your dominance of the peasants somehow, and one way they do it is proving that they are more "evolved" than others.