[fgonzag]

Same here, were already in talks with red hat to move dozens of servers which are currently running ubuntu with enterprise subscriptions.

We know redhat is just as bad at forcing people to use their software (systemd...) but they have to key points which ubuntu lacks:

- they usually win their software wars

- their software usually works well enough and they give you great support

- they mantain their projects and live with their decisions, unlike ubuntu which flips and flops with major updates (I'm waiting for them to switch from netplan to something else again and fuck up all my ansible config again, which was already battle tested)

- they have better management tools overall.

The only reason we went with ubuntu in the first place was because it was familiar to all of us (we had all ran it on our desktops). When they take that familiarity away, then they lose their only real advantage.