[chintan]

Hundreds of organizations, including ours, rely on Rocket.Chat for their internal messaging. It all went down when a release was pushed and snap decided to auto-update [1] I can imagine it resulted in a huge loss of productivity at all these orgs in the Covid era.

Just learnt from this thread that apt-install will install snap! I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 + i3 (Dell Developer Edition) but will change to Debian.

[1]. https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/17628

[simosx]

You can control when to update, https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date

[sakisv]

But that's just part of the problem though. I want to be able to rely on my system and not have a chance 4 times a day for random things to break (the default frequency based on your link).

The argument about "latest == safest" may have some validity when it comes to browsers, but for everything else a notification that there is a new version would be more than enough.

[ajnin]

> the next refresh can be delayed by up to 60 days, after which a refresh will be performed regardless of the refresh.hold value

Taking a leaf right out of Microsoft's book, I see.

[Andys]

Would someone be able to tell me how to plain old turn it off? I still can't tell even after reading the docs

[morsch]

You can turn it off by replacing your operating system with another Linux distribution. As of 20.04 you also still have the option of removing Snap outright[1], as long as you don't need the software that is only provided via snap.

Although apparently they are considering[2] adding the option to disable auto-updates.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22972661 [2] https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/re-visiting-update-control-on-t...

[Andys]

Thanks, I did this on my 20.04 systems and it worked fine. Simply uninstall snapd. I lost LXD (no way I'd use this now anyway if its distributed via snap), and chromium browser (but discovered the far superior Ungoogled version anyway)

[rlpb]

apt cannot revert, not even in principle. snap can in principle, and it should just be one command. It looks like it didn't work in this case because of a bug in Rocket.Chat's snap packaging. But bugs happen in everything despite their packaging format, and most users are affected by regressions in apt package updates anyway.