[drewbug01]

There is ample public video evidence, available practically in real-time, that disproves this point. I think a slight effort on your part to look at the evidence would dissuade you.

There has been looting, but to imply that protestors are "causing chaos" is a dishonest comparison given all evidence publicly available.

[kgraves]

footnipple never said that protesters are "causing chaos", there is a difference between looters and protesters, and there is A LOT of evidence online of looters taking advantage of the protesting.

[drewbug01]

When you take in the context that footnipple was replying to, my read is that they were implying a logical connection between the police arresting non-violent protestors and the looting / "insurgen[cy]" that is occurring.

Of course we can't really say either of us is right or wrong, because their statement inherently relied on bystanders inferring most of the meaning from context.

edit: footnipple replied in additional contexts that they've seen "a lot of destruction at the hands of some very bad people" when asked if they'd been in the protests, so I feel a little more confident that my read of the context was correct.

[jakelazaroff]

If there's even still looting in NYC, there's not much of it. Every single protest I've been to has been peaceful. The unprovoked assaults by the NYPD on those breaking curfew this entire week have happened during peaceful protests.

[kgraves]

> If there's even still looting in NYC, there's not much of it.

Please, you need to look beyond NYC.

The riots/looting has been happening across the US. I agree that there have been peaceful protesting, but you cannot deny that there have been riots and looting across the US.

Some black businesses have also been affected by this.

There is no justification for it.

[scarface74]

Well, how well did the peaceful protest and Kaepernick kneeling work out in affecting change and getting noticed? Companies that wouldn’t go near BLM with a ten foot pole are actively supporting it.

I have White friends who were mostly silent before but are now actively publicly supporting racial justice causes. I’m not saying they were anti Black justice causes before they just weren’t aware of how bad it was. It didn’t hit them viscerally, their only Black friends were the few high income households that lived in their neighborhoods and in their social circles.

Just like I was never as an adult against LGBTQ rights. I just didn’t care either way. It just wasn’t on my radar until a few years ago.

[jakelazaroff]

I'm not claiming there is no looting anywhere. But why should we expect that other police departments treat peaceful protestors any less violently? Do you think the NYPD is just especially sadistic?