[cmehdy]

Being skeptical of the claim that a certain qualia is not modelable in machine is just as valid as being skeptical of the exact opposite. This is exactly why I asked if there was anything beyond what the original poster said. Without it, a post based on the exact opposite assumption could have been written and considered just as valid.

[jacobr1]

Fair criticism, I didn't tackle that head-on. The following doesn't actually make a cogent argument either, but I'll elaborate that my intuition is that qualia (conceived as something nearly tangible) are more like "the soul" or "spirits" and that, as such, thinking they exist in the brain or a turing-machine is nonsense. To the extent they are more like some combination of memory and emotional-stimuli, then they just represent a particularly interesting set of internal states, but are still something that can be mathematically modeled.