[arkades]

You can assert copying isn't stealing, but the part where "I have something I didn't have a minute ago, and would normally have to pay money to acquire it, but didn't" is pretty clear-cut.

Just because someone wasn't deprived of the thing you now have doesn't mean they weren't deprived of something of value, and pretending otherwise is a juvenile see-no-evil defense.

[iopq]

That's literally why it's not stealing. It's not legal, but it's also by definition not theft.

[unreal37]

Agreed. "Piracy isn't theft" is such a cliche in these arguments.

The people downloading the books, music, movies, etc are getting something that they want, that normally costs money, for free.

Come up with a new word if it isn't theft. But it looks and acts like theft.

[Semaphor]

> and pretending otherwise is a juvenile see-no-evil defense.

And luckily I did not say that anywhere.