[luckylion]

> That's almost $700 per person per year if you converted it all to a UBI. That's far from insignificant.

Right... but introducing UBI won't remove the necessity of the department of energy, or somebody sitting in an embassy in Russia, or the person who orders toilet paper for the Library of Congress.

We'd save money on administrative overhead for the programs that are supposed to be replaced by UBI, but those salaries aren't what's eating the budget.

> I don't see why I am obligated to pay for someone who refuses to take care of himself.

I don't either, but we're a tiny minority. Well, at least in my country we are, in the US it may look somewhat different.