[g8tor]

> Tear gas and rubber bullets against, at the start, peaceful protesters. not okay tools.

Correct from your perspective.

I don't think it was used when the gathering was peaceful unless it was area denial. I think there's some or all of property damage, arson, looting, arming and throwing, before they use those tools.

Interested to see a video with context from the current unrest where that's not the case.

By hand to hand, I mean the stuff that happens when police and gatherers engage at close quarters.

There's lots of these scenes from the HK unrest. it basically is hand-to-hand combat with batons like I said.