[envy2]

Do people really hate FB so much right now that this garbage becomes the top article on HN?

This website[1] seems to be entirely blank aside from this article, the claims made are dubious at best and essentially unsourced, and the alleged "breaches" discussed seem to all just be dumps of easily scrapable data or things third-party developers (not FB) left lying around. There's zero evidence whatsoever of actual breaches of FB servers here, which would be a major story covered by far more reputable sources were it true.

As far as I can best see, this is trying to sell people on VPN services for which the author gets a commission, given the embedded link to a "best VPNs" site...

[1] https://privacytips.jimdofree.com/

[jevans22]

It's because it's such a highly controversial subject. I completely agree there's good and bad on Facebook, but overall feel like it nets out positive.

[rocketpastsix]

Im having a hard time finding a positive in Facebook.

[blaser-waffle]

Ditto. It obliterates privacy and datamines everything, while simultaneously serving as a platform for propaganda (marketing being slightly more benign economic propaganda).

In exchange for getting data-mined and marketed-to I get to see what the people I can't be bothered to email are doing.

There are other use cases, like businesses and groups announcing things over FB, but there are plenty of other platforms for this, many of whom are cheap or free.

[LatteLazy]

I don't know how to say this without sounding aggy, sorry.

If you don't see the value, don't use it. Not every product is for everyone. It's entirely possible that for you there is no value in Facebook use. It has a low value for me (excluding WhatsApp).

I use it only because I think its zero cost/risk. I'm very unlikely to fall for phishing scams and no useful (not already public) information about me is on there.

To me this is one of the big frustrations of the article: Facebook is safe for some and unsafe for others, it's useful for some and not for others, it's "worth it" for some and not for others...

[lozf]

But simply "not using it" isn't enough. They still glean all sorts of information about you from both your browsing habits and other people you may know, or even those who may simply have stored your phone number or email address in one of their devices.

[LatteLazy]

That's fine, but it's another example of this being a complex, personal matter not a simple yes/no universal answer...