[andarleen]

When i was little (14 or so) i used to read a lot about alien and Egyptian mummies conspiracy theories, about various phenomena and was fascinated by them. As i grew older i realised they were just stories. Wondering if some people never left that intellectual development stage. A certain degree of suspicion and caution around what governments do is healthy. But strongly believing there are microchips in vaccines, and 5G networks are meant to cause viruses that’s just adults with the analytical power of a child.

[DiabloD3]

I think we all did that at that age. And there's nothing wrong with those stories, even as adults... as long as you realize they're not true.

Like, could you imagine if we could deploy microchips in vaccines? We're maybe 30-50 years away from nanotechnology that could operate in the human body like that, and it would be groundbreaking and revolutionary.

Or, could you imagine just getting gigabit wirelessly, even out in the sticks? It'd be absolutely amazing for accelerating the growth and connectivity of about one third of America, and revolutionize the economy, education, literally everything in those places.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that a lot of their conspiracies depend on the emotional connection with technology fucking up their life. No, people fucked their lives up, technology just makes it faster, easier, and more efficient to do it.

I, on the other hand, am just disappointed that you can't actually torch a 5G tower... because there aren't any outside of very tiny test installations. What they've been torching have just been normal towers or long range LTE deployments.

[andarleen]

Personally I hope nanotechnology can be used in vaccines, for targeting cells based on their genome - imagine a tiny machine that will attack exactly cancer cells, covid, hiv. One that we can program, inject and cure.

Also I see the validity behind concerns around vaccines - certainly mistakes can be made and some may not be beneficial.

Same for 5G and radio waves. In theory, strong radio can cause damage but the amounts would have to be enormous.

But of course I am talking about people whom like children exaggerate everything in their minds, good and bad, to the point where where they fear an imaginary cabal plotting to subdue them. Like Courage the Cowardly Dog which sees everything like an exaggeration coming to get him and his family.

So imo yes, there are emotional connections but those emotions are underdeveloped and exaggerated.

[vixen99]

While self-aggrandizement is fun and empowering of course why not simply focus on the arguments for and against specific claims and skip the self-proclaimed measures of analytic power?

[andarleen]

I used this as an example because i kept asking myself why would people be so ready to believe in conspiracies, then i remembered i used to believe them as well. For me personally it is a powerful example of how it works. I looked into how i grew from exaggerating everything in my mind to how i started asking questions and digging into why things are the way they are. I discovered that most conspiracy theories start from a valid concern and then diverge into a gross exaggeration and distortion of reality, much like when you are young and your mind cant process too much information and you resort to imagination and fear. I am not self proclaiming or self aggrandising I am merely stating what i observed.

[yters]

The quantum magnetic dot is not exactly a microchip, but it does provide a weak signal that can be read electronically, and could be administered during a vaccination injection

UPDATE: here's the MIT article on their research. http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218

"MIT engineers have developed a way to store medical information under the skin, using a quantum dot dye that is delivered, along with a vaccine, by a microneedle patch. The dye, which is invisible to the naked eye, can be read later using a specially adapted smartphone."

[vezycash]

What I read is that the so called quantum dot is just invisible ink.

A stamp that tells the next health care worker if a person has been vaccinated, when, the type...

My friend who believes in stuff like these seems to have a thinking impairment in some areas. He latches on to the first idea his mind likes and never lets go.

Example was two days ago. He downloaded GTA3 game.

The file was a 147mb 7zip archive. Which magically expanded 147mb expanded to over 2GB after he ran a batch file!

He immediately started singing the praise of 7zip.

Without knowing any detail I told him the uploader was the wizard not 7zip.

He sent me the setup.bat file and the stuff became clear.

The uploader converted wav to MP3. MPG videos to low quality MP4.

The setup.bat used ffmpeg to upscale things.

No logical explanation from me changed his mind.

Last straw, told him to uninstall 7Zip and run setup.bat.

That was the end of the discussion.

[yters]

Here's the research article from MIT. http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218

[cheerlessbog]

Reputable sources please?

[yters]

MIT article on their research. http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218