[apta]

> But startup time is still not interactively-fast, so for CLIs it's sorta a no

They're working on it, for example: https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/310

[Groxx]

They've been working on it for quite a while, yeah :) I appreciate it and they've made quite a lot of progress... but it's still nowhere near Go, and I mostly doubt it ever will be.

    # time ./hellogo 
    hello world
    
    real 0m0.005s
    user 0m0.001s
    sys  0m0.005s

It's probably "good enough" for many cases nowadays tho, yes, e.g.: https://cl4es.github.io/2019/11/20/OpenJDK-Startup-Update.ht...

[apta]

You might want to check out: https://quarkus.io/