[jakear]

The hundreds of millions of people that use excel with limited to no training would likely beg to differ with the proposition that it isn’t discoverable. I’ve never taken an excel class or read basic excel docs, yet I know how to do basic excel things. That’s literally impossible in a CLI.

Similarly, how many people have trouble saving and quitting a word document? What about vim?

[gindely]

I have trouble saving a word document nowadays, since they close the document when you want to save or print. (You press file, and now the document has been closed and replaced by some menu. I do not know if my actions will apply to the document that I had had open before the program helpfully closed it and makes me feel very uncertain. I do not like to use Word for this reason. It is completely unfathomable to me why of all menus, the File menu is the menu that closes your document. I thought it should be the one to help you interact with it most.)

[frosted-flakes]

The File menu doesn't close the document, it just covers it. That's why it's terrible, and I don't know why they ever introduced it when Word 2007 already had a perfect solution. Word 2007 had a small menu exactly like File Explorer and Paint that was actually usable and didn't change the context.

[slightwinder]

So the first app you ever used in your life was excel and nobody ever explained you it's purpose? How did you ever learn how the mouse works?