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by Do4oolu5 2211 days ago
Beaker came to my mind immediately as well when reading this article :) It sounds so much like the perfect fit for the author.

The new beta has been quite depressing for me, as all my personal apps stopped working due to their complete rewrite of their API. I don't know if I'll ever be willing to start it all over again.

But for anyone who hasn't already played with it, I totally recommend it. It feels like the web we should have had.
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pfraze 2211 days ago
Really sorry about breaking your old apps. If you ping me on twitter (@pfrazee) or IRC, I can spend some time helping you convert them over. Most of the same capabilities are there (or on the way) so we'll hopefully just need to update the code.

EDIT: for anybody curious, we had to make breaking changes to the p2p protocol and used that as a chance to bundle a lot of improvements -- mainly with performance and reliability. It sucked to break existing content though.

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yepthatsreality 2211 days ago
> EDIT: for anybody curious, we had to make breaking changes to the p2p protocol and used that as a chance to bundle a lot of improvements -- mainly with performance and reliability. It sucked to break existing content though.

What guarantees are in place to ensure this wouldn’t happen again in the future? I really like the project and realize it’s still young and can probably risk piling on breaking changes, but I can’t imagine future upgrade paths will involve contacting one of the project maintainers on Twitter.

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pfraze 2211 days ago
> What guarantees are in place to ensure this wouldn’t happen again in the future?

I will say that I'm personally embarrassed that we had to do it. I don't like disappointing people who support our work. There was a post on HN recently about how Unity keeps breaking its platform; I don't want to end up like that.

The other thing I'll say is, there was a year-long gap from the 0.8.x beaker releases to the 1.0, and a lot of that time was connected to the engineering work on the protocol. The top priority was scaling, but we also added tooling the protocol so that if a similar breaking change is needed in the future, we can handle it smoothly.

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Do4oolu5 2211 days ago
That's ok, you're doing an awesome job, keep focusing on the good work :) It'll probably itch me again at some point.
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kickscondor 2211 days ago
I had to rewrite an app as well - but it turned out to be incredibly simple.

Here's my first commit: https://github.com/kickscondor/duxtape/commit/55dbde9519aedb.... Can't really call it a rewrite - more of a search-and-replace. (Though I had a bit of code that used the old peer sockets - and that code works differently now.)

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livatlantis 2211 days ago
Beaker looks very interesting indeed! Download it as I write this. Reminds me a little of what I've read about HyperCard. Looking forward to testing it.

Thanks for the heads-up! There are so many links to follow up on here in this thread.

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