[zests]

Political posts aren’t pleasant for anyone. They are also often meaningless.

Watch as I essentially take the contrapositive of your statement and say << Democrats fight hard to make voting as easy as possible because they are supported by people who are not engaged politically and by people who aren’t invested enough to vote if it takes any effort at all. >>

See? Not pleasant. I’d wager a lot of people have problems with that statement and I’d also wager that I could use each of their counter arguments to my statements as counter arguments to yours.

I see this pattern a lot. Its strange to me.

[neotek]

>Democrats fight hard to make voting as easy as possible because they are supported by people who are not engaged politically and by people who aren’t invested enough to vote if it takes any effort at all.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Fighting to increase voter turnout is infinitely preferable and authentic to the stated principles of the country than fighting to suppress voter turnout.

[zests]

If increased voter turnout helps your political party, you are likely to support it. If it hurts your political party, you are likely to be against it.

When talking about politics its hard to tell whether or not people "believe X because Y" or "believe X because it helps the party". Maybe they don't actually care about X but have meta-awareness and claim to believe X because it helps the party.

This is what makes political discussions annoying and frankly inappropriate. There is no possible way to argue in good faith and people have vested interest in arguing outside of good faith. I'd wager that some people believe they are arguing in good faith but do not realize that they are dramatically influenced by the orthodoxy of their political party.

[neotek]

>If increased voter turnout helps your political party, you are likely to support it. If it hurts your political party, you are likely to be against it.

If you care about democracy in the slightest then you support an increased voter turnout regardless of how it affects your party.

[carapace]

Logical gymnastics in a vacuum of facts avails naught.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/07/long-racist...

https://rooseveltinstitute.org/quick-history-lesson-voter-di...

https://www.nuorigins.com/the-historical-pattern-of-black-vo...

http://werehistory.org/disenfranchisement/