[admin_account]

This probably won't be popular but, does anyone take Mozilla seriously? For me they've always seemed well intentioned, but completely oblivious to reality. For example, does a browser with 5% marketshare really need its own engine? Can a browser with 5% marketshare even change anything if they wanted too?

Personally I don't think so, & also why I don't take them seriously. They seem to be more concerned with waving their "For The People" flag, than actually trying to change anything. If they were serious about "fixing the internet" they'd swallow their pride, transition FF to Chromium, & essentially become something akin to an activist shareholder within Chromium.

[CameronNemo]

They did not always have 5% market share. iOS and Android pushed WebKit/Blink hard, and Mozilla did not quickly respond; the ecosystem has suffered as a result.

[admin_account]

That's all true, but overall they've been steadily falling since 2010.

However I disagree with your view of the ecosystem. The web needs stability and consistency more than anything else. FF switching to Chromium would help with that. So many people have this knee jerk reaction of Chromium = Chrome = Google having total control. But don't understand the only reason Google has had this much control over Chromium is because no other major vendor used it. They were the biggest kid on the street. But now that MS moved in a few doors down, that's no longer true. Google has to acknowledge MS in a way they never did with Opera, Vivaldi, Brave, etc.. And the same thing would happen if FF switched to Chromium.

Idk about you, but having 3 of the 4 biggest vendors all being forced to collaborate and implement solutions supported by at least 1 of the others, is 1000000x better than having each do their own thing. You effectively go from a monarchy to some form of democracy.

[101404]

Then there was FfOS and firing people for "wrong" opinions and other dumb decisions.

Mozilla destroyed itself due to terrible and politicized leadership.

I just hope that a Rust foundation is created soon, before the language goes down together with Mozilla.

[101404]

I used Ff since the early Phoenix days. Sadly, some ten years ago, the organization was taken over by the wrong people. And now, it's a sjw group that cares more about politics than anything else. It's really a shame, because the world very much needs a second major browser engine. Just that these people and their political games destroyed the one organization that could have developed it.