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by idiopathic 5573 days ago
My understanding was the same as yours above, but it seems that if there is a valuation event – an IPO, for example – then the rise in value of all shares is counted, not just the ones which were sold.

Separately, I do not think the tax is unfair. Tax has to come from somewhere, and if SF can show a nicer environment for employees and founders to live in, then they can charge a higher price for the environment. Tax competition takes care of testing whether this is a wise decision, and there is plenty of tax competition in the region surrounding SF.

To me, tax becomes unfair if it is arbitrarily applied to some people, but not to others, e.g. letting Twitter and Zynga off, while taxing other start-ups.

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> My understanding was the same as yours above, but it seems that if there is a valuation event – an IPO, for example – then the rise in value of all shares is counted, not just the ones which were sold.

Well, that would explain a bit of the whining, but I will need a nice solid citation before I believe a word of it.

First, because I cannot fathom how it could possibly work: What's a qualifying "valuation event"? What if another event comes along and the valuation has dropped -- is the company entitled to a refund, then?

Second, because that would be the only tax scheme I've ever heard of, except maybe some proposed & hair-brained wealth taxes, that directly taxes unrealized gains. (Wealth taxes I'm aware of that actually exist tax unrealized gains under simple growth assumptions, not based on any sort of actual valuation.)

Third, because if that were the case you'd think that the vocal opposition would be able to articulate it more clearly.

> To me, tax becomes unfair if it is arbitrarily applied to some people, but not to others, e.g. letting Twitter and Zynga off, while taxing other start-ups.

Exactly the problem that the options tax was introduced to solve, as well. If there is a tax on employee compensation, why shouldn't the executive compensation of $1 salary + $300 million in options be taxed at the same effective rate as the janitor's wages?

(N.b.: I think a payroll tax is dumb, but a regressive payroll tax is dumber!)

(Edited a bit for clarity & removed a side comment.)