[FridgeSeal]

I've played around with a bunch of languages, and Rusts' is unequivocally the best experience I've had so far. Cargo works as intended, literally straight out of the box, crates.io and the Cargo.toml was straightforward to figure out. Certainly way less frustrating than figuring out how to use Python virtualenv when I was first starting.

[fastball]

I meant how imports work within a package, since that is what was being discussed in the article.

Nested `mod`s with sometimes `pub` and then `use` for other stuff certainly seems more complex to me than `import X from P`.

Package/crate management is fairly trivial in both cases, yes. `npm i [package]` isn't exactly a difficult process either.

[guitarbill]

that's fair, but newer languages like Rust have the benefit of hindsight, and can mandate one way to do things. to be clear, i'm all for that.

i don't think it's possible to do that any more with Python, the genie is out of the bottle. but you can get close with things like Black (auto-formatting) and Poetry (nicer deps mgmt and so much more). of course, how would a beginner know this? hopefully some day tools like that will become the default answers