[som33]

>It's actually going to be a great era for consumers.

It's actually NOT, AMD, Intel, MS and big media companies are planning to put hardware DRM inside the computer.

The last 23 years of PC gaming we've seen the PC become a closed platform because of STEAM and mmo's, aka any client-server software you buy mean's you no longer own your PC or have any personal privacy because the program is constantly beaming data back to the mothership.

So no, they are going to turn the PC into locked down platform like mobile where you never see the exe files, they are trying to kill off local applications they want to "end piracy" by literally removing any control you have over your PC.

That's what Windows 10 DRM is about, UWP - encrypted computing, vm's, etc. Mean's it will be increasingly impossible to preserve old software because they are not honest binaries.

Don't think so? That is what Irdeto is all about, they've been encrypting PC game files for a while now and the future of PC gaming looks grim with always online drm, encrypted files because of micro-transactions and in game stores.

https://irdeto.com/

So no... the future looks locked down and dystopian to anyone who's been paying attention, what we're gaining in performance we're losing in freedom and increasing levels of DRM, VM's and encrypted software.

[imtringued]

>It's actually NOT, AMD, Intel, MS and big media companies are planning to put hardware DRM inside the computer.

That's pretty old news. Things like the AMD PSP or Encrypted Media Extensions (DRM implemented by webbrowsers) exist primarily because media companies strongarm vendors into implementing DRM against their will. Things like HDCP simply do not work if they aren't deeply integrated into the hardware.

Steam is another example of a platform where developers are asking for DRM. The reality is that DRM is optional on Steam [0] but almost no developer is voluntarily disabling DRM. The high profile publishers even add third party DRM to the games because they think what steam does isn't enough!

>The last 23 years of PC gaming we've seen the PC become a closed platform because of STEAM and mmo's, aka any client-server software you buy mean's you no longer own your PC or have any personal privacy because the program is constantly beaming data back to the mothership. >So no, they are going to turn the PC into locked down platform like mobile where you never see the exe files, they are trying to kill off local applications they want to "end piracy" by literally removing any control you have over your PC.

I'm not sure why you are using Steam as an example because it is a piece of software that wouldn't exist once Microsoft forces every application to be delivered through the Microsoft store. Not only is Steam third party software, it is also a tool that installs even more third party software. This bypasses the entire idea behind only allowing reviewed applications on an app store.

Steam also has another very nice feature that lets you avoid problems associated with Microsoft. It runs on Linux and it even lets you play Windows only games on Linux. Once you switch to Linux all of those problems you are talking about are irrelevant.

[0] https://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

[som33]

You don't get the end game was to client-server the big budget games which has happened. AKA diablo 1 + 2 we owned the game outright, not so with diablo 3 and overwatch.

Steam was forced into half-life/cs in 2004, no one wanted it and steam is malware. That is why we lost dedicated servers and level editors in the AAA gaming space.

GTK Radiant - level editor quake engine games

http://icculus.org/gtkradiant/

Doom vs Doom eternal. Because the internet makes stealing software easy by holding back program files from the user.

Doom was the grandfather of modding on the Pc, in doom 2016, we got a gimped snapmap, and doom eternal is totally locked down. A far cry from the id software of the 90's.

[salawat]

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. I've been trying to keep an old Vaio Z series ticking along with Windows 7 using a community hybrid graphics driver. Lo and behold, you can't even do that anymore without basically hacking the windows kernel from the bootloader because Micro$oft is too busy sucking up to the movie/streaming industry to allow regular users to keep their things running. The kernel will not let you load an unsigned driver and give you the option to overrule their BS setup, even if you have looked at what the driver to determine what it is doing is correct, and are willing to use it.

B2B is the new policy setter. Businesses are the new first class User, and everyone else is just a Luser. To hell with em' all I say. If I could I'd find a way to crack their DRM anti-end-user circuitry and share it with the world out of spite. I liked that damn laptop. I still like it. I'm going to figure out how to pull off that bootloader thing, and I'm putting it out there for other Z series owners. You shouldn't have to fight a computer damnit!

And yes, I could swap to Linux, but that isn't really the point. The DRM crap moving to hardware means everyone has to deal with it. Furthermore, everything else I run is already Linux, and that laptop is my token Windows machine, which has quite a bit of sentimental value, as it was one of the machines that got me through college.

Anyway. Consider my hat firmly in the outraged bucket. This is ridiculous. Worthy of ridicule in every sense of the word. The entire software/hardware industry should look at the industries or actors asking for it, and tell them to work on getting on better terms with their users. The majority won't misbehave if you just provide a reasonable experience.

About the only two industries that have a reasonable claim to needing these types of features are National Security, medical devices, and grudgingly finance. That's it. Even then, I have difficulty swallowing the application, because it just leads to people trying to pry the lid open ever more. If they aren't going to give people the capability to opt out of this draconian nightmare, I want nothing to do with them.