[BubRoss]

I have one and it works well, but AMD doesn't have good CPUs with their APUs yet.

They aren't Zen 2, more than 4 cores or 7nm, all of which would make a huge difference. Putting the APU on the same chip makes them more difficult to cool, especially since they don't have quite as high quality packaging as the better CPUs. Getting smooth 4k realistically means messing with bios settings to get them to throttle less and run hotter.

[random9763]

That is true, but considering how terrible the AMD APUs were before ryzen, I’m still impressed by the performance leap (current dual-core APUs with HT perform better in multicore workloads than the previous ones with four). I’m still waiting for them to release something that has a low enough thermal envelope to go into a NUC-like while keeping decent performance.