[mech422]

Of course, programmers in Oklahoma are not idiots either..

They know that not only does the company have a wider choice of employees - the employee has a wider choice of employers.

They also know SV companies pay more then $90K, and if they already have a decent gig they will not 'settle' for what they could get at a small company. They may not ask for the full $150K - but they are going to ask for say $120-125k. End result is salaries will start to homogenize around the country.

P.S. We've seen this in AZ as more tech comes in, salaries have been getting closer and closer to SF.

[brogrammernot]

AZ salaries, when factoring in COL, are more than most tech jobs in California. This is leaving the allure of non-valued startup options but on average the salaries I’ve seen (yes, n=1) are in the realm of the upper curve of Bay Area salaries .

[wikibob]

Do you have some reliable data you can share on AZ salaries?

Glassdoor is obviously not reliable.

[mech422]

I actually haven't looked for a job locally in 3-4 years. I'm currently working remotely for a SV company.

I did do a few interviews with AWS for a TAM/Engineering type role earlier this year. They had no quibbles with $175K. I actually lost interest when I found out it was a 25% on-premise role at client facilities. If I had known everyone would be working remotely now, it might have been different.

[wikibob]

Based on Levels.fyi data for salary by level, how much would the level for that role have paid in the Bay Area?

[mech422]

yeah - I honestly think phoenix metro is a great place to live. Salaries are good, CoL is still fairly low (though its gone up quite a bit in the last 10 years), and there seem to be more opportunities all the time.

TMSC dumping $12B into the phoenix economy over the next 9 years would only make things sweeter...

[wikibob]

Are you in AZ? Can you share some first hand numbers on salaries by level there over the years?