[gambler]

Yeah, keep pimping these "mitigations" instead of a better security model that doesn't require everyone perfectly jumping through hoops. When you get fucked over by one of such security exploits it will be a great relief to know that it could have been prevented if only the software vendor did the right security voodoo dance (which gets more elaborate by the month).

Edit: can't wait for the usual replies with "what is your solution?"

The obvious flaw in modern web security is that the domain isolation model does not make any sense today. It's an outdated hack. Software communication should be done thorough something resembling actor model where code running locally is thought of as completely separate entity from the web server. It shouldn't have anything to do with domains. Communication from any actor to any other actor should be subject to the same security model, regardless of where their code was loaded from. Escalating privileges between actors should be a universal and well-established process with known guarantees, not a bloody mess of ad-hoc conventions, headers and "best practices" that change with every browser, app and year.

[bawolff]

> The obvious flaw in modern web security is that the domain isolation model does not make any sense today. It's an outdated hack. Software communication should be done thorough something resembling actor model where code running locally is thought of as completely separate entity from the web server. It shouldn't have anything to do with domains. Communication from any actor to any other actor should be subject to the same security model, regardless of where their code was loaded from. Escalating privileges between actors should be a universal and well-established process with known guarantees, not a bloody mess of ad-hoc conventions, headers and "best practices" that change with every browser, app and year.

How would that change anything? The flaw is the websocket was open to anyone (on the application layer. All security in the example was due to what ip addressess the websocket binded to on the network layer). If you replace the same origin policy with some other security policy, it wouldn't really make a difference, unless your web socket decided to use it, and in that case you might as well use the existing same origin policy.

If your real argument is that CORS/same origin policy/websocket security policy is inconsistently specified and has made some questionable specification decisions - sure i agree with you. But that has nothing to do with using origin as the security domain for websites

The fundamental flaw here is using the ip address and assumed sufficientness of only binding to 127.0.0.1 as a security measure without application level mitigation, not how browsers do network security

Edit: reflecting on this, i think i change my mind a bit. The fundamental problem isn't that the web security model is full of hacks, but that the websocket spec decided to ignore it and instead focus on the socket (tcp connection) model of secirity. If you open a socket all the server has to authenticate is the ip address. Anyone can open a socket to anywhere, any orher authentication has to be taken from higher level protocol. In websockets, its mostly the same. Anyone can open to anywhere, and webserver just has ip address and origin to authenticate. Anything else should be done in higher level protocol. The problem is people see websocket and assume WEBsocket not webSOCKET.

[bawolff]

Its not really a mitigation if its the core security model. A mitigation is a work around. I guess technically a mitigation is anything that fixes the issue, but for example if someone had a password protected app that was hacked because it didnt check the password, i would not call actually checking the password a "mitigation"