[dannyw]

Open offices cost less. Real estate in SF, NYC, etc are incredibly expensive.

So is that really a surprise?

[pythonaut_16]

Kinda sounds like you're arguing both sides of the issue.

Offices are meant to be productive, but real estate in SF, NYC, etc makes it too expensive to design offices for productivity.

[rainyMammoth]

You are making my point. If offices were made to be productive, open offices would NOT be a thing.

The fact that companies still pay $$$ for an office in the bay area is for management purposes and making sure that employees are "buts in seats" for 40+ hours a week