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by herostratus101 2225 days ago
You presumably also would be in favor of domain brokers restricting speech (correct me if I'm wrong). Does every controversial political speaker also need to host his or her own ICANN domain? Or should they just promote their speech entirely offline?
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I'd like people to use a multitude of domains/providers/companies to minimize the ability of a small group of companies to influence discourse.

Having said that, I understand that practically avoiding those companies is tough.

There’s no shortage of companies who value money more than morals. Those affected can host their sites with one of them.
All these cries of "censorship" misunderstand that what is happening is fundamentally a business decision.

When Alex Jones gets pulled from Youtube, it's because he is effecting their business relationships and ability to make money.

Couldn't you make the same argument about gay couples in a small town rural restaurant?

But would it be morally right to ban those couples from a restaurant?

No one is born a conspiracy theorist.

Someone spouting asshole opinions is not the same as an immutable trait by birth.

Alex Jones is not even being sincere in his quackery, this has been explored in court and he admitted to being a fraud.

Because we have decided that after decades of bigotry, violence and discrimination that the rights of gay people to their life supersede the rights of free association for public businesses.
We have? Can you show me a national law in the US that says restaurants have to serve gays?

See how the "it's a private business so they can discriminate!" works?

Keep in mind, as you mention, the shoe has been on the other foot and it will be again. It's better to enshrine and uphold these principals at all times. Not be like a dirty cop planting evidence because "he knows the suspect did it" and try to get to "Right" by cheating. In the end that blows up and it was wrong all along anyway.

Why do you think I’m talking about the US? There’s a whole world out there.
You could if it was 1950. Fortunately it’s 2020 and laws exist to protect gay couples.
I'm not sure they do to the extent you suggest.

But I agree, if you open a public service you can't not rent to blacks, you can't not serve gays nor Democrats. That is how it should be.

When you open an upload streaming service to the public, _particularly_ if you have the majority market share, you have certain obligations of non discrimination. This should include religious and political viewpoints as well as race and sexual orientation.

Maybe Jones does cross the line from political discourse into trolling and incitement to violence. Not sure because I haven't watched him except on Joe Rogan. But we need to be very careful about moving that line.

I was replying to what you specifically said:

> Couldn't you make the same argument about gay couples in a small town rural restaurant?

And the answer is "no, you can't."

Really? 8chan was unable to find any hosts for a very long time, and its future is still uncertain.
Lots of people in New Zealand and El Paso won't shed a tear for that fact.