[dive]

I tried the Notion twice. It looks good, works fine and has a reasonable price. But. You cannot write notes in this application. Literally. You can build tables, resize images, align lists in different shapes, have a dashboard for all thousand cases you have with favourites photos as headers, filter views with a million conditions, manage to-dos and project with kanban, ..., but you cannot write simple notes. The interface will fight you, mouse/trackpad are required in many cases, Enter key will produce different unexpected results...

This is a good piece of software. But if you want to take simple linked notes, then you probably need something else.

[busrf]

Hmm, I primarily use Notion for notes, and for me I almost never need to leave my keyboard. I can write like I’m writing markdown and text formatting is rendered automatically, the / commands work very well and the keyboard focus works sanely (I can type /link, hit enter, search for a page, browse through results with my keyboard, hit enter, and get a link to that page, then press enter to get on to the next line).

Can you be more specific about what doesn’t work for you?

[marvinblum]

Hey there, we've thought about that too and came up with a new user interface concept. Emvi [1] supports interlinked articles already and you can search through your notes easily. But we found the current user interface to inefficient for both, simple note taking and collaboration. You can read about our new concept here: https://emvi.com/blog/a-new-experimental-user-interface-QMZg...

It will come out in about three weeks and we're always curious about feedback :)

[1] https://emvi.com/

[slightwinder]

Is this a alternative frontend for notion? Or what do you mean?

From the look of it this seems like another poor implementation of the same old tricks and concepts which everyone already know and uses.

[marvinblum]

No it's a new frontend for Emvi which focuses on keyboard controls and better attention focus. What do you mean by the same old tricks? You'll find some images and gifs in our Twitter profile: https://twitter.com/emvi

[slightwinder]

It means there is nothing special about this, no innovation, nothing outstanding. Just playing the same old tune which so many others are already playing for a long long time.

[Pmop]

What do you recommend (besides org mode, I don't use Emacs). I need something to write down ideas, store concepts I've learned, and at the same time has a Kanban board so I can track/manage progress of my side projects. Preferably, something that works offline. Preferably something open-source so I can rewire the thing to my needs.

[leoncvlt]

I use https://dynalist.io/ and enjoys its ease of us a lot - it is admittedly a glorified version of https://workflowy.com/, but while Workflowy invented the bullet-list web app formula, I find that it has stagnated in ideas for a while and I do like the little extra features Dynalist has.

[brendanmc6]

What? Notion's keyboard support is my absolute favorite part about it. I can brianstorm and take meeting minutes at the speed of thought!