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by asabjorn 2232 days ago
You accuse me of misrepresenting while doing it yourself and provide outliers to justify your point:

1) N95 effectiveness:

Edit: parent seem correct that it protect others against sneezes as long as it doesn’t leak out through sides due to sneeze velocity. See NIH links below [2,4].

However, if a person have virus particles on mask and touch it before touching other surfaces the mask may be a liability.

Then again, it seems more effective to isolate the sick than put masks on all.

2) I said that the dire scenario used to justify lockdown or the one in NYC, has not been seen in any reopened or never locked down states. I also said isolating the vulnerable seem sufficient.

I never claimed no reopened state will see some increases in covid cases, some do and some don't. I also did not say that the 7 states that never closed down experienced no covid scenario, but that they showed isolating the vulnerable was sufficient.

3) Lockdown measures have deprived rights under the color of law [3], violating rule of law, and enough of us will support each other to take full recourse under the law. The law I cited [3] show that the officials enforcing unconstitutional measures risk jail.

Enough of us will not accept when governors retaliate after loosing court cases [7], or when judges try to enforce unconstitutional lockdowns [8] or take on a prosecutorial role [5,6]. Or fine or jail people for exercising their constitutional rights. This is the definition of lack of rule of law. You are on the wrong side of history.

4) Yes, we will exercise our first amendment right to freedom of speech and if that fails we will exercise our second amendment right/responsibility to protect our liberty. Again, you are the one arguing against how the American democracy works.

[1] https://respiratory-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1...

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3785820/

[3] https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-l...

[4] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10168531

[5] https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1260714837316960258

[6] https://www.wsj.com/articles/judges-are-umpires-not-ringmast...

[7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jowoEFpy-Kk

[8] https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/06/texas-dallas-salon-o...

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On #1: I continued researching after the interesting evidence from parent.

To anyone interested this is an overview of multiple studies of N95 usage and it’s efficiency in stopping covid spread [1].

TLDR; The results for flu studies show no conclusive efficiency, there are no covid studies, and many studies show negative health effects of the healthy using masks; breathing in virus through nasal passage causing infection to spread where it otherwise wouldn’t, hypoxia causing lower immune response and other negative health effects, etc

[1] https://www.technocracy.news/blaylock-face-masks-pose-seriou...