[prepend]

I’m always looking for better tools. For informal projects Trello or GitHub issues works, but if I ever have to track anything, it isn’t easy.

I went from MSProject and ClearCase to Jira in the mid 00s and thought it was so much better. I’ve gradually changed to hate it, but can’t find a better tool.

The alternatives I’ve tried have been way worse in terms of complication, cost, and specialized training required. I work with people who use MSTeams and it makes me yearn for Jira. I’ve used GitLab, but it’s cost is too high for non software projects.

It’s weird how this seems so simple that there would be a clear default tool that just captures user stories, routes them among people, and gives reports.

[wx196]

I similarly tried Trello and Github issues (created about 1,500 issues so far just on GH) and it is not easy to work in any of them. Trello is great until you have lots of tasks, Github is developer-centric and not product-centric, thus too unstructured. Finally decided to do one more task management tool. Saying the truth, there is so huge competition in this space right now, that I would think 10 times before making something like this nowadays, knowing how difficult to implement it despite seeming simplicity. It becomes more and more complex if you want to offer revision history, "undo" functionality instead of constant "are you sure you want to delete" etc. But I like what we did so far (see project name in my profile if you want to try it). Actually, I still don't know the other tool which is focused on creation of actual "stories" and not just small text description and lots of tags.

[sidpatil]

> I work with people who use MSTeams and it makes me yearn for Jira.

What do you mean by this? As far as I can tell, stock MS Teams and stock Jira are designed for very different goals—they don't fall in the same category.

[prepend]

Sorry, I meant TeamFoundationServer.

[ahuang1018]

Curious about why GitLab costs to high for non software projects?