[_bxg1]

This is really exciting. Every time I see something about Swift my thought process is "that looks like a lovely language but I don't build iOS/macOS apps, oh well". Maybe now I'll give it a real go.

Fun fact: Graydon Hoare, the original inventor of Rust, now works at Apple on Swift.

[kccqzy]

That's an outdated but sadly common perception. TensorFlow for example is pushing Swift pretty hard: https://www.tensorflow.org/swift/

Disclaimer: I work at Google but not on TensorFlow.

[pjmlp]

I don't believe TF4Swift will go anywhere.

Fortran, C++, Python and Julia drive the show and work with full tooling across UNIX flavours, Windows, macOS today.

[jabl]

I'd love to have a modern statically typed language with type inferencing etc. that can be used for scripting, working in a REPL, as well as compiling to native code.

I've never tried Swift, but it seems it could have all the required features. I guess it's just lacking a lot of libraries that work on Linux.

[pjmlp]

OCaml fits the bill.

[jabl]

Yeah, or Haskell.

But those have been out there in a more or less mature form for decades, with no major uptake in sight. I guess they're just too esoteric for them to reach critical mass. So here I am, stuck with bash/python/C, and dabbling a bit with Rust..

[pjmlp]

If you would like to work in finance or compiler development, there is enough uptake of ML derived languages.

[swiley]

OCaml definitely has some weirdness that come from its age though (char==byte thing for example.)

[pjmlp]

Yeah there are some quirks, but that wasn't part of OP's request.

[_bxg1]

I know it's had some mixed support for other platforms for a while, but it's hard to really invest time and effort into a language before you know it has official support.

[akhilcacharya]

didn't all of the original authors of TF4S, including Chris Lattner, leave?

[komuher]

Yes they all did

[person_of_color]

All of them?? Bad blood

[iphone_elegance]

Is tensoflow for swift even still a thing?

[michaelbrave]

Some of the first bits of research using it just started coming out last month

[iphone_elegance]

I should really start looking at it again

[steveklabnik]

(He doesn’t anymore, but he did)

[_bxg1]

Oh he doesn't? Didn't realize that

[steveklabnik]

Yep! I’m not sure what he’s doing today.

We’ve had several folks go between the two teams, and they’re generally very friendly with each other!

[_bxg1]

Yes I certainly didn't mean it as a knock on Rust, but as a compliment to Swift

[insulanian]

> I’m not sure what he’s doing today.

He seems to be back working on Stellar [1].

[1] https://github.com/stellar/stellar-core/commits?author=grayd...