[Gibbon1]

Yeah the whole noble lie thing is pernicious because even really stupid people are often good at telling when people are lying to them. Problem is once people realize you're lying they have no good way of telling what the truth is.

So you just fucked them.

[pmorici]

Absolutely, and the really stupid thing about the whole "masks don't help" lie is the same sources saying in one breath that there are masks shortages at hospitals and in the next that they don't help. Talk about a credibility killer.