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by wintermutestwin 2225 days ago
I use firefox as my primary browser, but I have recently ran into issues with several sites that I need to use. Whenever I contact support, they tell me their site requires Chrome.

As it is, I have a Winblows box for gaming only that I put Chrome on, but one day, I am going to be remote and needing Chrome. I don't want google's tentacles on my work laptop, but am starting to worry that I have no choice...

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Which sites? Name and shame.

If you absolutely must use Chromium you can use Brave instead. It doesn't solve the extensions issue discussed here but at least it cuts out most of the Google garbage.

> Which sites? Name and shame.

Or even better, report them to https://webcompat.com

Netflix limits video quality on Firefox although you can trick it with an extension. Then there is the fact that hardware accelerated decoding for Linux/X11 hasn't hit yet.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1619523

Anyway one valid solution is to add one or more app shortcuts that effectively run chrome/chromium --app=url and collectively treat these chrome specific apps as such. Instead of opening a new tab just click the icon on your bar.

This doesn't quite handle for example links however one could use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-in-chrom... to click on links and send them to chrome for known problematic sites.

This is still way better than in the early firefox/IE days.

Netflix limits video quality on Netflix and Chrome to 720p in the same way (except for ChromeOS), so I'm not sure that really fits your argument.
Not the GP, but here's some:

• Slack, for audio/video calls

• Microsoft Teams, for audio calls (the video portion technically works if you fake the user agent)

• Skype for Web, for audio/video calls (although it occasionally decides to work if you fake the user agent, it usually breaks)

Slack is a problem for me. I have to boot up a VM when someone wants to call me on Slack.

If it's a linux VM it could boot up quite fast right?
The Shopify admin panel stopped working in Firefox a few weeks ago.
I don't remember them all, but coveredca is one.

I thought Brave was yet another scammy project that was showing ads (albeit selectively)

Definitely shame coveredca since that is a public service website.

Put that one out to some local media, social media, etc.

I haven't tried it with that site, but I generally find that chromium + changed useragent usually gets passed most checks like that.
Ironic. Back in the days when IE was king, we thought that all that's needed for a truly open web is open standards. Now Google has demonstrated how you can have open standards, but still create and maintain a monoculture around them, simply by evolving them so fast that any competition can't keep up.
You can use the Ungoogled Chromium builds, which also remove the remaining creepy misfeatures that Chromium has: https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-bina...

The builds themselves may potentially be insecure, but they're rather popular among the security-conscious target audience, so I hope someone would notice if they go bad.

Sadly, there's some uber-cool advanced web platform stuff that's only supported or only supported well on Chrome.
Web devs should not be using that stuff until it has broader support.
There is always ungoogled-chromium which runs many of these add-ons, https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-wiki...
Edge dev uses chrome under the hood and you don't sell your soul to google.... Just to MS.