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by hinkley 2222 days ago
I want to know the constraints to, and evolution of, sequential computation on the BEAM. I want to form opinions on how that landscape is likely to change within the lifespan of a project I'm affiliated with.

I get mostly false positives trying to find those sorts of discussions or metrics.
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di4na 2222 days ago
I am not sure i understand the problem you are trying to find information about. Maybe explain it a little bit more ? or go ask for it in the elixir forum, people can try to be your librarians there
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hinkley 2222 days ago
To an outsider, it seems like the BEAM documentation [and particularly, videos] go out of their way to discuss how process management and IPC communication works and how certain classes of data are managed. They talk about what makes the BEAM the BEAM to exclusion of all other concerns.

Prior to finding this document (http://www.cs-lab.org/historical_beam_instruction_set.html) I had no idea whether you could actually do computation on the BEAM. I was starting to wonder if they had misappropriated the term VM, and some sort of inline assembly trick was being used for everything but control flow and IPC.

Interpreted code has very, very real computational constraints and you can't assume people will know this, even now. Especially if your system is noteworthy for how it is not like other systems. Where does it stop being 'weird' and start being conventional? The boundaries describe both sides of a distinction. Even if you're only interested in the exotic part, leave some breadcrumbs for others.

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toast0 2222 days ago
Hmm, are you maybe after this page?

http://erlang.org/doc/efficiency_guide/advanced.html

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irq-1 2221 days ago
> [and particularly, videos] go out of their way to discuss how process management and IPC communication works

After watching a bunch of videos on BEAM/erlang/elixir I came to the conclusion that it isn't a platform for computation, it's a platform for communication. The best video (by far) was The Soul of Erlang and Elixir • Saša Jurić https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvBT4XBdoUE

Two shallow benchmarks:

https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...

https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/ (phoenix is at 175)

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di4na 2222 days ago
I still don't understand what you are talking about, but i suppose this is more due to my own limitations in missing a lot of the background you come from. Sorry that i am not that useful :(
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