[ornornor]

> Those offtopic, face to face chitchats you have with your colleagues or boss hugely help your career growth. The WFH people are going to miss out on that.

I suspect there is a non-trivial amount of people who don't care about that. I've been writing software for a while now. I don't want to become team lead or manager. I don't care for the drama. I just want to do my job, get paid, and go home.

In that case, WFH is perfect.

[oblio]

Yeah, but you'll be lower on the social ladder. If your boss needs to fire 1 person in your team, you will be the first to go.

(I find it amusing that this was downvoted when it's basically an axiom :-) )

[ornornor]

Maybe so. Although outside of the US (Europe for instance), businesses are not so trigger happy that they lay people off every other month.

When a company must do budget cuts and layoff, it’s a big deal once in a few years thing. Not bi-annually.

Whatever the frequency is, it’s a risk. Arguably though if you’re remote you’re getting paid HCOL wages while living in a lower COL area, so being laid off isn’t as much financially dangerous as it would be in SF/NYC. Plus all these working years you’ve avoided the stress and drama that goes with climbing the ladder/getting in your boss’s pocket.

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted though, it’s a legitimate concern.

[mpweiher]

First sentence of post you're replying to:

>I suspect there is a non-trivial amount of people who don't care about that

[oblio]

And the third sentences says:

> I just want to do my job, get paid, and go home.

Hard to get paid if you get fired...

[ornornor]

Right. Luckily you can find work elsewhere after being laid off.

[oblio]

Have you been checking the unemployment rates recently?

[ornornor]

Like I said. This isn't everyone's cup of tea. I'd rather be unemployed than grovelling to my boss and play the climb the ladder game. That's me. You do you.

[rorykoehler]

Developers are in the 1%. A good dev is always going to find work, at least for the foreseeable future. There is a huge scramble to snap up newly redundant talent now. I had a dev who lost their job reject a job offer today because another company got there first. I know what job he took but he doesn't know I know so it's not like he said it to soften the rejection.

[hellisothers]

There is also the up-or-out policies though, I think your point makes a lot of sense and will work at smaller companies unless the big ones accept less churn.