[adrianN]

70k for senior level in Germany seems low to me. Siemens for example pays around 45-60k starting salary for developers.

[ido]

As I said you can find better but I'll bet the average wage for developers with 10 year of experience is actually below (or at least not above) 70k.

Also my experience reflects living in Berlin (& previously Vienna), in Munich or Frankfurt salaries may be higher.

[ChuckNorris89]

In which city/division can one find this salary? Siemens is huge and has multiple business units in multiple cities each with their own salary grid.

[adrianN]

Siemens pays according to the IG Metall labor agreement which you can find here (in German) https://www.igmetall.de/tarif/tariftabellen/wie-viel-gibt-es

A software engineer should get _at least_ EG10 which ends up being >50k e.g. in Berlin.