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by DenisM 2224 days ago
Is it not exactly the same whether the factory is closed or not? If you are listed as an employee you're not getting the unemployment.
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Voluntary vs involuntary.

You get unemployment if you're involuntarily out of work (laid off/furloughed/reduced hours). If you voluntarily chose not to work when offered, or at fault for termination, you're typically disqualified from unemployment.

"Typically" might be correct. Our nation's Covid-19 unemployment response is not typical.

All of my employees have been given the option to work, or be furloughed. Their decision. Two have chosen to stay home for their own personal reasons. They are on state unemployement and also collecting that weekly check from the fed. It's up to the fed when they stop doing that, but these people know we will work with them if/when that goes away.

Don't give Elon the benefit of the doubt for most things, but I think he's right on.

Is it really voluntary choosing not to work when the state is telling you to stay home and you comply?

Again, it’s a really terrible way to treat your employees.

If a factory closes down, the following layoffs allow the person to get back on their feet without the help of their employer. Removing this option leaves the employer with 100% of the leverage (without a union, anyway).
no, that's what all of this is about. conservatives don't like in principle that people are receiving unemployment for their pandemic-induced lost hours (employers - and in some states workers too - pay an unemployment tax on payroll to fund rainy days like these. that unemployment tax is largely subsidized by the federal government, as well)

ETA: the conservatives are absolutely wrong, and the only way out of this is more help for those affected.