[orwin]

In this paper (i continued reading after the carefully cherrypicked graph because it seems everyone cherrypick those days):

"""Instead of offering proactive and positive suggestions that will enable our immune systems to combat the disease"""

Yeah, right. You can train your immune system, this is a well known fact in every pseudo-scientific paper [0] /s

I'm not asking anyone to be an expert, but man this is 1rst year med school. I mean anybody who took biology lessons in college know about this. My sister just started a school to become dietitian (not even nutritionist) and learnt about this. How can people trust someone who write something so uninformed?

[0] https://www.hunterandbligh.com.au/life-and-style/8-ways-to-b...

[thelibrarian]

FYI, dietician > nutritionist. Dietician is a protected term, like doctor, or dentist. Nutritionist is not. Any joker can call themselves a nutritionist.

Going to see a nutritionist rather than a dietician is like going to see a toothiologist rather than a dentist.

So it is rather an insult to your sister to say that she is "not even a nutritionist".

[sabman83]

Isn’t the line following that say the same thing? That the lockdown will suppress the immunity system?

[orwin]

Not exactly, as you can be immunodeficient. It is still inaccurate. If lockdown was proved to prevents you from sleeping well and to cause enough nutritional deficiencies (don't have the english word, sorry), yes, maybe it could perturb the endocrine system enough ot "suppress" your immune system.

But i'm fairly sure everybody that was not eating in restaurants every lunch ate better than usual (still too much sugar but...). And fitbit data in the US seems to shows that people are sleeping better during the lockdown[0]. This argument is based on bad logic, bad science, bad everything.

Honestly, i'm not sure if overall, lockdown is better or worst for the health of everyone. Im sure some people will have a lot of positive effects (me at least), some people might suffer more negatives effects, and for other it might balance out.

From the quick search i did with sleep quality and eating habits, it seems that overall health is better. However i have two addiction doctors in my family and anecdotal data seems to suggest that for other people, it was deadly (one of the two was involved in a Covid unit until last week and just started counting deaths).

[0] https://www.fastcompany.com/90499017/fitbit-data-shows-were-...

[sabman83]

Thanks for your reply.

But I do think the point of the article isn't about the science but that Gates Foundation has a huge role to play in what the government needs to do and that there is a clear conflict of interest when they add Microsoft to be a partner in the digital identity plan.