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Respectfully, there are a great many things wrong with the opinions in this post. I'll try to address them all with as few words as possible.

Chip self reliance is a good thing from a general geo-political standpoint, regardless of China.

China's aggression manifests in many covert operations, mainly information warfare.

The ruling CCP is diametrically opposed to most Western political and social values and itself feels very threatened by democracy and personal liberty. As such it is working very hard to destabilize the West and expand it's hard and soft power to export its authoritarian model around the world.

The end of the American "empire" is hardly guaranteed to happen any time soon, and while some weak willed and naive pseudo-intellectuals may be willing or even eager to roll over and let it die, many others with clear eyes recognize the benefits of your culture and country having power.

With power comes wealth. With power comes pride. With power comes influence. And with enough power comes global stability, which is what the US currently provides. Why would anyone in their right mind willingly give up such power? No, we will do everything we can to maintain it because it absolutely has real value that benefits all Americans.

Fundamental values, lives, wealth and influence are all at stake here. Those who do not recognize or do not care are fools. Let us hope they never get a hold of power.

[jmeister]

This comment is just “Id in a meltdown of nationalistic rage”, to use a phrase from the parent comment.

What has China done to the US that makes you so angry? Is it just that Americans need a punching bag to vent their anger at this moment?

[forgot_again]

Did you not read the comment? Saying it's "nationalistic rage" frames it as something petty and superficial.

How is liberty vs fascism petty or superficial? It's not.

Regardless, outside of their ruling ideology their rise doesn't make me angry any more than an athlete's strongest competition makes him angry.

There are real, tangible benefits to being on top and there's no reason to give that up. This is a calmly calculated recognition.

[setpatchaddress]

> Those who cannot see that are blind and let's hope they never get a hold of power

Um. It’s a little late for that. Seen any news in the last four years?

[forgot_again]

Yup, the current administration is doing a fine job. Addressing concrete issues America faces on many fronts.

[remarkEon]

>The ruling CCP is diametrically opposed to most Western political and social values and itself feels very threatened by democracy and personal liberty.

I'd like some folks from China to respond to my comment, to make sure I'm not talking out of my ass, but in discussions with my friends who are from Taiwan or from Guangzhou the Chinese seem perfectly fine with rejecting "Western political and social values" as long as it means stable and consistent security and economic growth. And frankly I don't blame them. There is no physical law that says western democracies == happiness.

[forgot_again]

But there is physical law (Newton's First Law) that implies without sufficient checks and balances systems ultimately become dominated by a single force.

Regardless, I and many other Americans like our system, so why should we allow to it be threatened by a power hostile to it.

[dntbnmpls]

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>"What pathetic nonsense. They feel threatened by western aggression. Stop with the propaganda bullshit. They aren't threatend by "democracy" and "personal liberty". They are threatened by people hiding behind "democracy" and "personal liberty" to attack and destabilize them."

The CCP is indeed existentially threatened by freedom and liberty because their absolute rule is predicted on its antithesis. Open your eyes, friend.

[dntbnmpls]

> The CCP is indeed existentially threatened by freedom and liberty because their absolute rule is predicted on its antithesis.

The easiest way to spot a propagandist is the use of "CCP", so maybe you should steer clear of that? That's why the "CCP" doesn't allow the chinese to do anything right? Chinese can't travel overseas? Attend universities overseas? Can't work overseas? If "democracy" and "personal liberty" were such a threat why are there so many chinese in american universities?

> Open your eyes, friend.

Not your friend, pal. Why are you so concerned about the "CCP", buddy? Man, all of a sudden every propagandist seems to be so concerned with the survival of the "CCP".