[afpx]

At this point, most people seem to know that their mobile data is being used. And, interestingly enough, they don’t seem to care.

[m463]

They have no power to change it and no credible alternatives.

Apple and Google create systems that make it possible to harvest data with no user control possible. Neither provide the ability to see or stop data leaving your mobile device.

They do this so they can attract developers to their platform.

They do provide "controls" to prevent some sort of data access to prevent mindful users from leaving the platform.

It's just that the control have the same sort of ambiguity as a privacy policy. Many people still don't understand that "location services" really means two-way, or that bluetooth can be a proxy for very fine-grained location tracking.

I hope that we finally get alternative phones (say pinephone or purism) because I firmly believe there's a HUGE market opportunity for this sort of thing.

[sumedh]

Your cell phone service provider can collect and sell this data as well, its not just Apple and Google.

[harwoodleon]

A broad statement. I’d like to see the evidence that they don’t care, especially when faced with the level of detail collected.

I’d say they don’t care to know, not that they don’t care. Ignorance is not a defence, even if it is temporarily a business case.

[kovac]

Almost everyone, I've spoken to about these (including software engineers), know they are being tracked and they don't care. Actually, you know what, not almost everyone, everyone I've spoken to about this.

I've got the reply "if you don't like it, stay off the internet". Well.

[Jon_Lowtek]

I do care. More must be done to protect consumers. I have spoken.

[kovac]

I agree. I find it utterly disrespectful for all the engineers who are working their asses off to save the free internet when someone tells me to stay off the internet if I don't want to use a Google service. It's that bad.

[afpx]

I can't point you toward public data, unfortunately. But, I work in this space.