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by duxup 2235 days ago
At least with takeout I know I have regular backups.

That's more than most places offer.

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Have you looked through the takeout outputs though? They are completely worthless to most users. It's funny to me that a bunch of Google devs built the functionality and thought "ya this will do".
What's wrong with the data?

I mainly care about Google Docs and Sheets, they're exported as Word and Excel (and there are other options if you don't like this formats), and the random sample of docs I tried in the output worked fine in Word and Excel.

How are the takeout outputs useless? Mail for example comes as a nice standard mbox
I doubt the devs have much influence over the scope of the data output. The goal there is minimum for legal, compliance, or pr reasons.
Takeout is useless without Google. Also: gsuite doesn't really have a backup feature. You're locked in for all that it's worth.
Why is it useless?
Try restoring it. A backup is only good if you can make it work again, and an export function is only good if there is something else that you can import it back into.
I guess I'm missing how that relates to the comparison I made.

Google at least lets me back things up.

Most services do not allow it at all.

So there's no restoring anywhere else at all, no chance.

Having the data I could at least have a chance that some service might offer a rebuilt import option to pick up those google users ... or I could build it myself / at least have the information.

To me that's still leaps and bounds better than any other options that I know of.

The GDPR obliges all companies to provide an option for users to receive all data held on them; takeout and FB'd equivalent were implemented in response to that.

For all other companies, at least if you are in the EU, you should he able to request the data by eg email and they are obliged to send it. You just don't know what format you'll get.

I believe takeout predates the GDPR ... by a wide margin.

As for all other companies they might be obliged to send it, but I don't see many ways to do so.

That still make's google's method way better IMO.

Yeah, a lot of exported data is basically unidirectional.

Google Voice exports your texts into a clumsy pile of HTML files. That's why I wrote a parser to convert all of your Google Voice messages into structured data.

https://github.com/unqueued/googlevoiceparse

Takeout doesn't work for users with substantial data.
What does it do?

Does it not provide the data?

From when I last tried (and retried several times), it fails to export everything so you only get a partial snapshot with random pieces missing.