[luckylion]

> There's no shortage of any of those things in the Western world.

Yet. And let's not talk about more advanced things that are also needed. Like medicine, transportation, power etc pp.

"Hey, don't worry about the economy, we can always go back to how life was 300 years ago, we can easily do that with a fraction of the people". Ok, cool, but do you really want to live like that? Are you sure that everybody else wants to?