[koheripbal]

Calling it a "manifesto" is trying to give reader here some bias against it. Like he was some alt-right madman.

He wrote a post. Not a manifesto.

"There are productive ways to have these kinds of conversations"

Well obviously there aren't when posting a comment in an internal company forum gets you fired.

[jashmatthews]

He skipped over classical liberal and very quickly gave interviews to prominent alt-right figures like Stefan Molyneaux.

[manigandham]

He interviewed with Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan. Also who on the left would interview him? That's the issue with claiming that he only talked to one side.

[jashmatthews]

As he said in his interview with Peterson, he declined interviews with any centrist media. He filed an NLRB complaint before posting, hired Charles Johnson (who is a professional conspiracy dude and claims to know where MH370 is) to run PR and made a bee-line directly for maximum exposure with people like Molyneaux.

That's a very deliberate choice. He's no martyr of rational thought.

[reroute1]

"Centrist media" kind of took a dump on him... Why would he run to them?

Is Joe Rogan not a centrist? He is self proclaimed liberal on most topics, right wing is a silly label

[uxcolumbo]

What makes you think Joe Rogan is alt right?

Watching his interviews with various people who are more left leaning doesn't give me the impression that he is alt-right.

[manigandham]

Joe Rogan is not alt right, far from it. That was my point, that the interviews were not from one side.

[dirtydroog]

Rogan was labelled alt-right after he interviewed Gavin McInness and Alex Jones again (a comical interview btw). That may have been cancelled out by him interviewing Bernie Sanders though.

[free_rms]

Rogan is aesthetically a bro, that's all this comes down to.

If he were more 'soy' and less 'bro', while having the same mostly-liberal opinions, he'd get an entirely different reaction from the elite cultural left.

[dirtydroog]

I'm a European living and working in Europe. I have no idea what a 'bro' is.

[jashmatthews]

He didn’t appear on Rogan until a long time after his first interviews.

[hckr_news]

He also tweeted during the middle of this, "The KKK is horrible and I don't support them in any way, but can we admit that their internal title names are cool, e.g. 'Grand Wizard'?"

So...shrugs

[implements]

He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum, which if treated as a form of social disability would (or should, IMO) grant him some leeway.

If his intent wasn’t sexist then his failure to perfectly negotiate the complex social way those points have to be expressed isn’t a moral failing on his part.

Edit: I’d rather posters took the time to argue against rather than downvote. My point is just that ‘socially colourblind’ people probably shouldn’t be punished for lacking perceptual and expressive subtlety. It doesn’t mean they can’t be corrected or educated, of-course.

[ikeyany]

Why shouldn't people get punished for lacking perceptual and expressive subtlety? I doubt you would have a problem with rewarding people for possessing such skills (e.g. well-paid actors, or clever detectives).

[hackissimo123]

> He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum

That's because he is: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/16/james-dam...

[Udik]

> He sounds like he may be on the autistic spectrum, which if treated as a form of social disability would (or should, IMO) grant him some leeway.

This attitude leaves me almost speechless. When someone makes an argument that at least tries to be well reasoned, and people attack him based on misunderstandings and how it makes them feel, maybe the problem is not that he's autistic. Maybe it's those who are offended and refuse to engage in a civilized debate that have some form of disability.

It used to be that dispassionate reason was the highest form of discourse (the only one on which it's possible to reach agreements). What happened to that standard, when the responses boil down to "how does it make you feel"?

[FeepingCreature]

I mean.

He's not wrong.

[jack1243star]

Can't disagree with that.

[manigandham]

That's called a joke.

[zozbot234]

That's obviously a joke, though. (It's also on Twitter. Everyone acts weird on Twitter.)

[magic5227]

There obviously ARE more productive ways, because most people aren't fired for having discussions at work.