[theoreticalee]

Agreed, a framework is just a toolkit of best practices and useful tools.

Another benefit of using a framework is it lets you 'work' with other amazing coders. I have increased my php knowledge many times over by using symfony. Sometimes this happens because you just have to dive into the frameworks sourcecode to see what's going on.

[theoreticalee]

It's like having your own personal secretary do all the work and research for you to get the ground work up.. heh I like that analogy

[tomdeal]

indeed! gotta save this quote somewhere :)